Comments on: Sin is God-ward http://517church.org/2010/07/sin-is-god-ward/ going somewhere significant Tue, 15 May 2012 06:28:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: keiyeng http://517church.org/2010/07/sin-is-god-ward/comment-page-1/#comment-1839 keiyeng Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:55:36 +0000 http://517church.org/?p=1174#comment-1839 Mario, I think I can say 'yes' to that, but it's such a long sentence I'm a bit hesitant about which bit/s I should perhaps qualify - either in my original post or in this 'yes'?! By my 'yes' I mean that I pretty much agree with your thoughts, but wouldn't necessarily say that your thoughts are a summary of what I was trying to say - though I'm not sure whether you were suggesting them as a summary... ?! in conjunction with Grace's comment: a standard (like the Law, a la Romans 7-8) while being good in itself, condemns us because it holds out to us what we need to be but can't, whereas the Person of God, while being Holy Judge, is also Gracious Saviour - so we're much better off seeing our sin as against this Person (because it means we can get help from Him to overcome it) than suffering the dead-end frustration, guilt, and/or self-pity that come from just seeing ourselves as sinning against the standard. Mario, I think I can say ‘yes’ to that, but it’s such a long sentence I’m a bit hesitant about which bit/s I should perhaps qualify – either in my original post or in this ‘yes’?! By my ‘yes’ I mean that I pretty much agree with your thoughts, but wouldn’t necessarily say that your thoughts are a summary of what I was trying to say – though I’m not sure whether you were suggesting them as a summary… ?!

in conjunction with Grace’s comment: a standard (like the Law, a la Romans 7-8) while being good in itself, condemns us because it holds out to us what we need to be but can’t, whereas the Person of God, while being Holy Judge, is also Gracious Saviour – so we’re much better off seeing our sin as against this Person (because it means we can get help from Him to overcome it) than suffering the dead-end frustration, guilt, and/or self-pity that come from just seeing ourselves as sinning against the standard.

]]> By: gracie http://517church.org/2010/07/sin-is-god-ward/comment-page-1/#comment-1732 gracie Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:55:43 +0000 http://517church.org/?p=1174#comment-1732 thank you for this post k! ya, for the christian fully embracing God's immense grace, we are freed from that vicious cycle of guilt, doubt, and frustration which nips away at our confidence & assurance in the finished work of the cross! at the same time bearing responsibility for our actions which means a bajillion times more when realizing its against a person rather than the detached impersonal 'standard'. thank you for this post k! ya, for the christian fully embracing God’s immense grace, we are freed from that vicious cycle of guilt, doubt, and frustration which nips away at our confidence & assurance in the finished work of the cross! at the same time bearing responsibility for our actions which means a bajillion times more when realizing its against a person rather than the detached impersonal ‘standard’.

]]> By: mario http://517church.org/2010/07/sin-is-god-ward/comment-page-1/#comment-1660 mario Thu, 15 Jul 2010 03:58:35 +0000 http://517church.org/?p=1174#comment-1660 are u saying that through God's grace we are victorious over sin by not being trapped in the catch 22 of pity and guilt as a result of falling short of a standard but to come out of it renewed, cleansed and willing to obey? are u saying that through God’s grace we are victorious over sin by not being trapped in the catch 22 of pity and guilt as a result of falling short of a standard but to come out of it renewed, cleansed and willing to obey?

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